"The tradition in America is a progression of individual freedoms. You know what the tradition of America would say? Gay marriage is the next step in the progression. That's the tradition of America. You're misrepresenting the tradition."
I think the part that really made me laugh was when Bill O'Reilly said that Greenwich Village isn't a diverse community! He might've meant in terms of the way they vote, but it's still a pretty ridiculous statement. Almost as bad as the Panda notion, which seems like a very "the sky is green, and you're crazy if you think it's not" sort of notion.Okay, so let's say I wanted to put an end to identity politics, starting with my own. That would mean that I could no longer vote for anyone who is white, heterosexual, able-bodied, male, young, thin, left-handed or agnostic unless both candidates have the same trait(s). Wouldn't that decide my vote for me just as arbitrarily as "playing into" identity politics? And what do I do when it's a black man versus a white woman, as it was in the democratic primaries? Which aspect of my identity am I allowing to influence my decision the most? Must I change my party affiliation just to be able to cast an "objective" vote? After all, I'm not just voting for the candidate I think will look out for my interests, right?
John,not voting for someone bacause they're similar to you would be "playing into" identity politics. Identity politics means supporting a candidate (or not) because of their identity - or because of the characteristics associated with their identity. If I vote for Obama because I want a black president, that's identity politics. If I vote AGAINST John McCain because I don't want another white president, that is also identity politics. I don't think anyone is completely immune to identity politics - it seems to play a huge role in every election. But I think it was particularly pronounced this time around.
Mikhail, My point was that if I'm a black man and I want to avoid identity politics, do I have to vote for a white or female candidate since I don't share as many identity traits with him/her? "I'm voting for McCain/Palin." "Why?" "Because I have less in common with them demographically than Obama/Biden and I don't want anyone saying that my vote has been tainted by identity politics."In other words, at what point does it stop being identity politics and start being an informed political decision?
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I think the part that really made me laugh was when Bill O'Reilly said that Greenwich Village isn't a diverse community! He might've meant in terms of the way they vote, but it's still a pretty ridiculous statement. Almost as bad as the Panda notion, which seems like a very "the sky is green, and you're crazy if you think it's not" sort of notion.
Okay, so let's say I wanted to put an end to identity politics, starting with my own. That would mean that I could no longer vote for anyone who is white, heterosexual, able-bodied, male, young, thin, left-handed or agnostic unless both candidates have the same trait(s). Wouldn't that decide my vote for me just as arbitrarily as "playing into" identity politics? And what do I do when it's a black man versus a white woman, as it was in the democratic primaries? Which aspect of my identity am I allowing to influence my decision the most? Must I change my party affiliation just to be able to cast an "objective" vote? After all, I'm not just voting for the candidate I think will look out for my interests, right?
John,not voting for someone bacause they're similar to you would be "playing into" identity politics. Identity politics means supporting a candidate (or not) because of their identity - or because of the characteristics associated with their identity.
If I vote for Obama because I want a black president, that's identity politics. If I vote AGAINST John McCain because I don't want another white president, that is also identity politics.
I don't think anyone is completely immune to identity politics - it seems to play a huge role in every election. But I think it was particularly pronounced this time around.
Mikhail,
My point was that if I'm a black man and I want to avoid identity politics, do I have to vote for a white or female candidate since I don't share as many identity traits with him/her?
"I'm voting for McCain/Palin." "Why?" "Because I have less in common with them demographically than Obama/Biden and I don't want anyone saying that my vote has been tainted by identity politics."
In other words, at what point does it stop being identity politics and start being an informed political decision?
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